Being Called Into Ministry: A National Worker Perspective

**This podcast is taken from our Global Video Report: EMPOWER CONNECT March Edition**

00:00:00 Introduction: Isaiah 6 and the global call to ministry
00:01:20 – Ron’s encounter with Leonard Ravenhill and the impact of revival history
00:03:40 – How national leaders approach calling and revival across cultures
00:05:50 – The benchmark of Isaiah 6: Immensity, Intensity, and Eternity
00:07:15 – Immensity: Seeing God’s holiness and the crushing of pride
00:09:00 – Intensity: Cleansing fire and the Spirit’s encounter
00:10:30 – Eternity: A life mission, not a job — responding to the call
00:12:15 – Isaiah 6 and the global church: Why this pattern repeats worldwide
00:14:00 – Final thoughts: This is normal Christianity, not cultural or denominational

JOY: Welcome to The Unshakable Church, the podcast series that unpacks spiritual truths and lessons that I’ve learned from over 30 years of working alongside national church planters in the spiritual hotspots.

RON: For my message today, I’m going to be talking to you about Isaiah chapter 6. This is Isaiah’s call into ministry, and it’s a very famous portion of scripture. I’m going to take you and show you how this is approached by the national church planting movements and believers all around the world.

When I say approached,” I get asked this question all the time: What is the characteristic of these national leaders, these national evangelists, the national pastors, or just the average believer? What do they experience? How do they approach being called into ministry? What does God do to them?

That’s why I’m trying to share with you what I’ve been noticing is true all around the world, in country after country after country. It doesn’t matter what background they are or what culture they come from.

God does something special in people who are on planet Earth — He comes down and meets them in a certain way during a revival and outpouring of the Spirit or any other time. That’s what we’re going to be talking about today.

This is all going to be preempted by an experience that I had, and it was rather influential in my life. I was one time down in Texas quite a few years ago, and I was teaching at Last Days Ministries. I had the opportunity to go over and meet a man of God named Leonard Ravenhill.

Leonard Ravenhill has written books, has taught — he’s English in background, a very traditional English evangelist. I grew up in that background, so I could relate to him well.

When I walked into their yard, his wife Martha was tending the garden. She said, Brother Pierce?” I said, Yes, I’m Ron Pierce.” She said, Leonard is waiting for you inside.”

She escorted me in, and Leonard said, A pastor friend of mine told me you would be coming for a visit. I would like you to sit down and tell me what you’re seeing around the world.”

So I did. I sat in a big leather chair. Leonard was on a leather couch to my left, and Martha picked up her knitting and wanted to listen in. She sat down at the far end, knitting away, and Leonard and I started to talk.

We talked for about three hours. At first, I was nervous — this guy was famous. He wrote the book on revival, basically—Why Revival Tarries, Revival Praying, all these various topics.

But then I got excited, and I started going country by country: This is what we’re seeing here… this is happening in this area… here’s what’s going on.” I told him story after story.

Then he got excited too. He sat up on the edge of his couch and said, Yes! That’s the way it was in the Welsh revival! That’s the way it was in the Hebrides revival!” And he’d start sharing.

This went back and forth for a while until Martha — still knitting quietly — said to Leonard, Leonard, sit back, calm down. You’re going to have another stroke.” (I guess he was elderly and had had strokes before.)

Leonard would sit back… then creep forward again as we kept talking.

At one point, he said something that always stuck with me: I use Isaiah chapter 6 as the benchmark for ministry calling.” He said this is what he studied and what he saw in revivals worldwide.

He broke Isaiah 6 into three parts:

  1. Immensity (seeing God’s holiness)
  2. Intensity (the encounter with God)
  3. Eternity (the call and commission)

He said every revival leader — whether Baptist, Pentecostal, or anything else — has some version of this experience:

Leonard called this seeing eternity through God’s eyes”—understanding the eternal consequences for souls rejecting Christ. That’s what gives people unstoppable passion.

Then we looked at Isaiah 6 together:

  1. Immensity (v. 1 – 4):
    I saw the Lord high and lifted up… holy, holy, holy.”
    • A vision of God’s majesty that crushes pride.
  2. Intensity (v. 5 – 7):
    Woe is me!… a coal touches my lips.”
    • A deep cleansing and filling with fire.
  3. Eternity (v. 8 – 13):
    Here am I, send me… Go and tell this people.”
    • Not about traveling far, but about being activated right where you are.

This isn’t just for super Christians.” I’ve seen it in village pastors in India, underground believers in China, ordinary people worldwide. Once they’ve:

  1. Seen God’s holiness,
  2. Been touched by His fire,
  3. Understood eternity’s stakes—
    …they can’t stay silent.

Leonard was right: This is normal Christianity. Not a denominational thing, not a cultural thing — it’s what happens when people truly meet God.


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